Something like OpenMPT, but with a more fancy sampler (timestretching, granular) and extensible built-in synthesizer engines. I want the middle ground that doesn't exist, I want fancy synths in music formats that play in the browser via WebAssembly and xmplay/foobar2k. I don't want to choose between highly restrained chiptune formats or squeaky clean DAW recordings. I'm not sure what more I can say to explain myself. And there was nothing stopping Renoise from doing their own plugin format, doing a better job than Buzz did, etc. It's sampler engine could easily form the basis of a wavetable/granular synth. Renoise doesn't even have built in synths. Renoise has a far more advanced internal sampler and built in FX, but it still is pressured by the music industry, and plays second fiddle to external plugins, external sampler libraries etc. So I can't even keep my Opus or GSM files small in OpenMPT. it can only import samples rather than store the original files. And it's held back in a lot of ways - relying on ImpulseTracker's dated 90s sampler. OpenMPT's bleeding edge is really just a mere sequencer that just sends MIDI data to plugins rather than something that can compete or blossom with its own sound engine. VST is out of sync with those ideals and is really just desperation to appeal to a changing industry. However, those would at least be supported by libopenmpt. I understand the apprehension to do drastic or exotic things like OP元 or MED instruments. It contains some of the best module players in any library. I'm not trying to downplay your work on it. I like MPTM for what it is, a conservative IT derivative, like how HVL relates to AHX. I want the source file to play by themselves, without extra setup for external dependencies. Lossy / compressed samples and real-time synthesis/effects. I want a rich, dynamic sound, keeping the size small. The point is, I cannot use OpenMPT or Renoise the way I want (nor is there anything nice that does what I want). It's just that most people are not going to label their music as being made with those synths. There are thousands of songs using those plugins featured in KVR OSC as well. If you don't use VST plugins, a MPTM file is just as independent as any IT file, but it can make use of features that IT can't. MPTM is a logical evolution of the IT format with features such as per-pattern time signatures, custom tunings and lately even OP元 support - so there you have your built-in synthesizer, even if it's a very old and not exactly powerful one. MPTM was not (just) made to support VST plugins. QuoteMPTM and XRNS aren't successors because they no longer act as standalone modules, they're just project/session files.Sorry but that's a gross misunderstanding of the features and capabilities of those formats. There's simply no one-size-fits-all synthesizer or even sampler engine. A tracker with a built-in synthesizer will only be alive as long as people are happy to use that one synthesizer, and outside of an enthusiastic fan base, that won't be the case for very long. This is essentially what you suggested before, if I understood you correctly. It was fun to participate in KVR OSC but it also showed me very well that I would never want to rely on only having a single synthesizer available to write a piece of music, no matter how powerful it is. Despite the fact every single one is more capable than SID or XM. You look at the KVR OSC (one synth challenge), and there's only 40 songs per synth that demonstrate a synth's capabilities. Quote from: zikey on November 19, 2020, 20:42:07īut there's 38,149 XM files on Modland.
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